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为什么感冒发烧要忌牛奶呢?

cynthia
2010-06-10 21:46
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各位好,我女儿快11个月大,最近发烧咳嗽.我看了庄先生的<感冒发烧怎么办>里有说感冒发烧忌牛奶,否则吃对药也什么药效,这是为什么呢?是因为牛奶属性寒凉吗?那改吃羊奶可以吗?
内经养生居馒头
2010-06-10 22:47
我遇到一例感冒快好喝牛奶又复发烧的情况，想冒险让孩子多受罪就尽管喝吧，羊奶牛奶随便喝！:lol
cynthia
2010-06-17 13:09
感谢楼上!女儿现在好了,应该可以喝奶了吧?!
moccadoll
2010-06-17 13:33
干嘛这么执着得要喝牛奶啊？？？
vepavicki
2010-06-17 16:18
哎，现在大多数人都感觉只有牛的奶里面有营养，还有里面加的化学原料是营养。
cynthia
2010-06-18 08:57
我们这边保健院的医生还建议孩子最好喝奶到五六岁呢.我婆婆也嚷着要让女儿多喝奶,还闲我给的次数太少了:L 而我自己就觉得营养均衡比较重要(荤素都要吃).
现在女儿的饮食基本是白天吃米粥和杂粮,晚上才让她喝奶.可能等到她一岁多能吃上硬米饭的时候才戒奶吧.
生病的时候忌奶这我能接受,可为什么健康的时候不喝呢?我也看过一些不建议喝奶的文章,可真的就要完全不能喝吗?姐妹们帮忙解惑啊~~~
红枣红糖水
2010-06-18 09:08
呵呵,原来楼主是个新手,可以理解.
不用姐妹们帮忙解什么惑啦,您自己抽空多看看坛子里的置顶贴,看了十天八天就明白了.
冬瓜妈
2010-06-18 09:10
您既然看了不建议喝奶的文章，里面对于为什么不喝奶应该说的很清楚了，觉得还不清楚可以上汉唐中医网看看倪海厦的《牛奶喝出一身病》，然后自己好好考虑一下，能接受就不给孩子喝，不能接受就接着给孩子喝，主动权完全在您自己手里，干吗非要别人告诉你喝还是不喝，喝多还是喝少呢？
垣妈妈
2010-06-18 12:30
我儿子第一次喘的时候，去了总医院，大夫问，孩子是不是喝牛奶长大的，还说喝牛奶长大的孩子喘的多，因为孩子爱过敏，可是，我儿子检查对牛奶不过敏--

不过，大夫总算说了一句实话，喝牛奶长大的孩子哮喘的比较多
湘叶
2010-06-18 12:46
大家说说为什么牛奶是属寒湿的
禅音
2010-06-18 20:55
原帖地址：http://www.wwmm.cn/ShowPost.asp?id=899
(附Bill Bodri英文原稿)

来自: Bill Bodri 包卓立先生是美国康乃尔大学硕士美国注册营养师和注册自然疗法医师 他为我校专任的营养师和自然疗法医师

主旨: 为甚么不要喝牛奶

很多家长不清楚为甚么我们的寄宿学校不提倡喝牛奶，而很令人惊讶的是孩子们采用我们的科学饮食很少生病也没有以前过动的迹象，专注力以及情绪的问题也较为改善。是甚么原因?主要的原因是在饮食方面，我们不喝牛奶并且减少糖分的摄取。

牛奶以及糖分是食物中容易造成生病的两大因素。也许这是一个严厉的说法，但是这是实际的经验、以及许多健康专家对于食物的研究: 排除牛奶以及糖分的饮食习惯所得到的学术论断。让我们来谈一谈牛奶

你常常听说成人喝牛奶而造成肠胃的问题、拉肚子、过敏或者多痰。当他们停止喝牛奶，这一些问题都消失了。我们不曾看到我们的孩子有这些问题，最主要的原因是我们没有让孩子们喝牛奶。牛奶是美国的成人以及儿童最大的过敏源，有许多文件记载它是造成腹泻、抽筋、腹胀、胃胀气、肠胃出血、缺铁性贫血、皮肤疹、动脉硬化、以及粉刺的原因。它也是造成孩子周期性耳朵感染的主要原因。其中，超过百分之五十的孩子能够获得改善只要他们停止饮用牛奶。因为牛奶业者持续的做广告已达成销售的目的，这使得许多人相信牛奶是完美的食物、人们可经由饮用牛奶而达到吸收钙质的效果。但是我们也可经由食用深绿色蔬菜或者其他食材来摄取钙质而不是饮用会造成健康问题的牛奶。我们很小心的为孩子们选择富有钙质的食材，像是大骨汤，以及玩游戏让不喜欢吃蔬菜的孩子们也开始喜欢吃深绿色蔬菜。当然一些传统的观念，让许多内科医生以及营养师认为摄取足够的钙质不容易，应该靠饮用牛奶来避免骨质疏松。但是，却没有相关的研究报告能够支持这样的说法

我们相信生奶是没有问题的，但是问题必须追溯到市面上被商业化的牛奶。一般来说，大部分的人对于生奶都不会过敏，但是一旦我们将生奶改变成商业化的牛奶，就不同了。健康方面的问题就是来自于大量制造牛奶过程中的均值技术以及高温杀菌

高温杀菌改变了牛奶的本质。当你将牛奶高温杀菌，你会把牛奶加热到能够杀死细菌的温度，这当然也包括牛奶中好的细菌，像是在优格中富含的乳酸菌或者比菲德氏菌。在高温杀菌后，所有在牛奶中有益的酵素都会被破坏。失去了多种宝贵酵素的牛奶，是不容易被消化的，那也是为甚么许多儿童在喝完牛奶之后感到不适的原因。人类的胰脏没有办法一直产生这一些酵素，当胰脏有了过度的负担，就会衍生糖尿病以及其他的疾病

许多人知道他们有乳糖不耐症，也就是不能食用牛奶中的糖分—乳糖。乳糖不耐症并不是对于牛奶的过敏症，也不代表牛奶对他们不好。而是因为他们体内没有乳糖酵素或者乳糖酵素不足，使得牛奶中的糖分—乳糖不能适当的被身体所消化吸收。牛乳中原本富含的乳糖酵素也因为高温杀菌的过程被破坏掉了，这也是饮用商业化牛奶之后所产生的另一个健康问题。所有的糖以及牛奶中的乳糖都会抑制免疫系统，如果能够减少牛奶以及糖分的摄取，孩子们就会比较不容易生病、感冒。这也是为甚么我们主张摄取钙时，以其他食材来取代牛奶。

当我们均质化牛奶时，我们将牛奶打散成很小的粒子，所以脂肪就不会集中在表面。但是当我们将脂肪打散成很小的例子时，许多人相信同时会产生一种化学物质称为—黄嘌呤氧化酶这是均质化的牛奶被认为容易造成癌症的原因。虽然还无法证实的确有害，但是这是非常有可能的论述。我们知道的是: 这一些议题都还没提及到商业化牛乳中所含的成长贺尔蒙、抗生素残留物、病毒粒子、细菌、以及其他被添入的有害物质。现在牛乳的生产都是利用现代化的饲养方式:将饲料中添加高蛋白的成分，取代传统的新鲜牧草，让乳牛的脑垂腺分泌异常，而生产原产量三倍以上的牛乳，这一些乳牛需要大量的抗生素来维持健康

希望您可以再多思考过分依赖牛奶的饮食习惯。偶尔少量的牛奶或乳制品，对大部分的人而言，不至于造成严重的问题。我们能够节制孩子们对于乳制品的摄取，但是家长常发现回家之后，孩子们开始饮用牛奶，就容易有流鼻涕、胃不舒服、或者感冒的症状。我们能够使用其他的饮食取代牛奶，来避免这一些问题，同时摄取足够的钙质，让孩子们的牙齿和骨骼更加强壮。



From: Bill Bodri , Bill is now a certified Nutritionist, and an certified/registered alternative medicine therapist

Subject: Why No Milk

Many parents wonder why we don’t promote the drinking of cow's milk at our boarding school. What is surprising to some is that the children following our scientific diet rarely get sick and previous signs of hyperactivity, attention deficit or emotional problems disappear. Why is this? A major reason is because we eliminate milk and excessive sugar from the diet.

Milk and refined sugar are two of the largest contributors to food induced ill health in the world. That may seem like a harsh statement, but this is practical experience and academic conclusion of many health professionals who have studied these foods and seen the results of removing it from people's diets. Let's just talk about cow's milk.

You often hear adults saying that when they drink milk they suffer stomach problems, diarrhea, allergies or mucous. When they stop drinking milk, many of their health problems disappear. We never see these problems with our children and one of the main reasons is from avoiding milk. Cow's milk is the number one allergic food in America for children and adults. It has been well documented as a cause of diarrhea, cramps, bloating, gas, gastrointestinal bleeding, iron-deficiency anemia, skin rashes, atherosclerosis, and acne. It is the primary cause of recurrent ear infections in children. Over 50% of these children will improve and have no further ear infections if they just stop drinking milk.

One of the biggest myths people have come to believe in, due to constant milk industry advertising to get you to drink more, is that milk is a perfect food and that we absorb much calcium from milk. It is possible to obtain all your calcium from dark green vegetables and sources other than milk (which definitely causes health issues). We are careful to feed our students a diet rich in calcium, including Chinese bone soup, and have games that quickly turn children who don't love vegetables into green vegetable lovers. Of course the traditional view by most physicians and dieticians is that nobody gets enough calcium and everybody should drink more milk because it prevents osteoporosis. The research studies do not seem to bear that out.

We believe there is nothing wrong with raw milk but the problems observant nutritionists see can be traced to commercial milk. In general, there isn't anything in raw milk that a large percentage of the population is allergic to until we start changing it and altering it to become commercial milk. The health problems we see from consuming a lot of milk are due to the modern methods of homogenization and pasteurization.

Pasteurization alters the milk. When you pasteurize the milk, you are heating it up to a temperature that is sufficient to kill specific types of bacteria. This also kills all the good bacteria such as acidophilus/bifidus that you see advertised on yoghurt labels. After it gets pasteurized all the valuable enzymes in milk are destroyed (lactase for the assimilation of lactose; galactase for the assimilation of galactose; phosphatase for the assimilation of calcium). Literally dozens of other precious enzymes are destroyed in the pasteurization process. Without them, milk is very difficult to digest and young children therefore sometimes suffer upset after drinking it. The human pancreas is also not always able to produce these enzymes; over-stress of the pancreas can lead to diabetes and other diseases.

A lot of people know that they are lactose intolerant, which is the sugar that occurs in milk. Lactose intolerance is not a milk allergy. It doesn't mean milk is not good for them. It simply means that the milk sugar, which is called lactose, can't be properly assimilated by the body because the lactase enzyme is either not there or is in an insufficient amount. Mother Nature put plenty of lactase into the milk so it wouldn't cause a problem, but we destroy it by pasteurizing the milk. It's another reason people suffer health problems by drinking commercial milk. Milk is mostly sugar and all sugars tend to suppress the immune system. By eliminating the milk and many sweets the children rarely get colds or the flu. This is yet another reason why we prefer alternative sources of calcium to milk which at the very least tends to stuff some people up.

When we homogenize the milk, we also break it up into tiny particles so that the fat will not separate and collect at its surface. When we homogenize it, some people believe that this releases a chemical called Xanthine Oxidase which makes the homogenized milk more cancer causing. That's very possible but no one has definitely proved this to be detrimental yet. What we do know is that these issues don't even address all the growth hormone and antibiotic residues, virus particles, bacteria, pus and so forth you find in commercial milk, or the possibility of other ingredients being added that are harmful to people. The path of modern day milk production uses modern feeding methods that substitute high-protein, soy-based feeds for fresh green grass as cows should be fed, and our breeding methods produce cows with abnormally large pituitary glands so that they produce three times more milk than the old fashioned cow. These cows need excessive antibiotics to keep them well.

Hopefully, you will reconsider your position on overly depending on milk as a form of nourishment for children. Small amounts of milk or milk products taken infrequently will likely cause little or no problems for most people. We have no problem with modest amounts of milk, but parents always find that when children return home and start drinking milk, they easily develop runny noses, upset stomachs, or catxch colds. We have virtually eliminated these problems at our school while supplying children with more than enough calcium for strong teeth and bones from sources other than milk.
燕果
2010-06-18 22:49
我女儿吃过很长一段时间的羊奶, 为此付出了很大的健康代价. 拉稀, 感染, 哮喘等一系列的问题. 为什么我要给她吃羊奶, 因为这以前给她吃牛奶, 她整整半年没有长份量.
木耳
2010-06-20 22:23
那现在的奶粉也是不能吃了的，孩子还是尽量母乳喂养的好

幼儿园里很多家长还都将自己孩子长得壮实高大归功于锲而不舍的高品质奶粉投入
leooel
2010-06-21 09:30
因我自身身体原因孩子一点母乳都没吃上，全靠奶粉，现在想想真是愧对孩子。在来三七网之前还听信别人的建议花了不少银子买了些牛初乳粉想给孩子补补，幸好能及时来到了三七，少让孩子再受那些不可靠食品的伤害
精灵
2010-06-21 10:28
"牛奶补钙，预防骨质疏松，营养全面"，牛奶的广告做得太深入人心了:L
小江江
2010-06-21 12:20
不要相信医院的营养师，我有个同学是省城一家小医院妇科的，一次我到哪里去，值班室里有好多强生的，伊利的奶粉，湿巾之类的都是厂家送的，让他们给 出生的宝宝用，让孩子先入为主，主任因此每月有不少回扣，但是自己家的孩子是不用的湿巾的，怕不安全，所以我总结出一个规律，就如有关部门在宣传什么东西很好，很好，那这个东西一定千万不能用。
冬瓜妈
2010-07-23 14:42
【牛为坤，为阴土。
牛，“厚德载物”，但内含阴气，“履霜，坚冰至'。牛为阴土，那么又很养人。
但是人本身的阳气、脾阳之气要好才行。
小儿，特别是虚寒体质的，当忌之。】——龙隐云水

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我婆婆禁不住别家孩子都喝牛奶喝酸奶的诱惑，又开始给孩子喝奶粉了。我又得找资料想办法给她老人家看了。
心晴宝妈
2010-07-23 16:16
现在的广告商真是太不负责了，或者说无知
yyanhong
2010-07-23 19:29
自从来到三七网，我再没给孩子喝过牛奶，感觉非常好！只是，幼儿园里还偶有喝。我现在的办法是，看准了食谱哪天早餐有牛奶，就在家吃了饭才去上学。还好，这个幼儿园只在早餐安排牛奶。
vicshe
2010-07-27 17:05
幼儿园里都有牛奶喝的。我现在戒了儿子每天一次的酸奶和奶酪，晚上睡前还是得喝一次牛奶（有奶隐）。
sumay_xie
2010-08-14 15:21
回复 cynthia
:hug:
Cynthia, 我跟你的情况一样啊~希望好快可以度过这个阶段，向不吃牛奶目标努力。

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