谈话中的临在 - 摘自埃克哈特网站8月电子刊

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埃克哈特回答你的问题：谈话中的临在

问题：当我与其他人在一起时如何保持临在？我如何才能将临在带入谈话中？
埃克哈特：这并不容易。在你们开始说话的那一刻，两个头脑相遇了，它们互相强化对方。一个流动开始了，连续不断的念头的流动。上一刻你还是临在的，然后有人开始说话。在谈话中，空间丢失了。参与谈话的两个人完全丧失了对空间的感知。剩下的只是词语、念头和语言的表达，连续不断的念头转化成了声音。他们完全被它接管了。它有自己的动能 – 它几乎就是一个小的实体，一个不愿停止的流动。

时常地，它会在身体上引发情绪。而情绪又会强化和巩固它。如果连续不断的念头引发了情绪，事实是它经常会这么做，特别是当我们谈论到其他人的时候，他们做了什么，他们没做什么，他们对你做了什么，他们对别人做了什么，评论，说闲话，所有这些情绪化的东西，这时小我就进来了。当你批评别人时，小我感到更强大。通过贬低别人，在小我的虚幻的系统中，你的自我形象得到了一些加强。任何针对别人的批评都是这个能量流动的一部分。然后情绪也进来了，它们又对念头进行了强化。这就是空间的丧失。

你要如何重新找回空间，不是说：“我再也不说话了”，有一件事是必须的，就是意识到，你丧失了空间。除此之外，你什么也做不了 - 你是如此地被念头之流接管，以至于你都意识不到你被它接管了 - 你什么也做不了。“原谅他们吧，他们不知道自己做了什么。”他们是无意识的。他们是念头的续流。作为念头之流，你不愿意停止，因为你不愿意终止你自己。每一个实体都希望尽可能长时间地保持住有形。

如果你意识到你丧失了“空间”，哪怕这意识非常轻微，这一刻你有了一个选择。你的选择是什么？你可以选择在这一刻，在头脑的续流中，带入一点临在，一点空间。但是你如何做到呢？

它不仅仅会从你自己的内在到达你，它也会从其他人那里到达你。觉知发生了，但可能仅仅维持三秒钟，然后觉知又消失了。这两三秒，你意识到了空间的丧失，你必须充分利用，在这个空间中，你可以自由采取行动，做点什么。通过一个有意识的选择，你将注意力从念头中拔出来 - 但你必须在其他什么地方将它固定住，否则没有用。所以你选择将注意力放在呼吸、身体，或者是周围你可以感知到的其他东西上面。当你在和另一个人交谈的时候，最容易的方法可能就是利用你的呼吸或者内在身体。

在情况容易些的时候，事先做练习，这样你就可以在需要的时候做它了。进入你的内在身体，感受你体内活生生的能量场。然后你会注意到，你没有在思考。你可以继续聆听。这真奇妙，你可以如此自在地、美丽地聆听另一个人，而没有思考。

你在聆听，但你部分的注意力放在你的能量场上 - 这样你就将注意力从你的念头上移开。在背景上有一种活力的感觉。

最终它会是无形的。它已经是进入无形的一个入口。感受一下，你坐在那里聆听，而你已经走出了念头之流。然后，互动的质量瞬间转变。另一个人可能没有意识到发生了什么，他可能会继续说一会儿。这也并不意味着你不再回应。只是你回应的方式和回应的质量也不一样了。你不再只是贡献负面的能量了，虽然在大多数谈话中是这样。

然后，你说出来的话语也将带着一些宁静。它非常微妙，另一个人也许意识不到。继续保持注意力在你的内在身体，让它成为锚，然后你就会变得临在。如果你再次丢失了它，如果另一个人说了什么有挑战性的话，然后过了一会儿你重新记起 - 你继续回到内在身体。这是一个强有力的锚，然后一切都从这里开始变得不一样。这需要持续不断的练习。


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Eckhart Answers your Questions: Presence in Conversation


Question:  How do I maintain a sense of presence when I’m in the company of another person?  How do I bring presence into conversation?

Eckhart:  It’s not easy.  The moment you start talking, the two minds come together and so they strengthen each other.  A flow starts, a stream of thought.  A moment ago you were present, and then somebody starts talking.  What applies here is the loss of space during the conversation.  Both participants of the conversation have lost any sense of space.  There are only the words, the mind, the verbalization, the stream of thinking that becomes sounds.  They are taken over by that.  It has its own momentum – almost a little entity, a stream, that doesn’t want to end.

Often, it generates emotions in the body.   That strengthens it, amplifies it.  If the mental stream triggers emotions, which it often does, especially when talking about other people, what they did, failed to do, did to you, did to others, criticisms, gossip, all kinds of emotional [things], the ego comes in.  When you can criticize another, the ego feels a little bit stronger.  By diminishing another, in the delusional system of the ego, you have enhanced your own self-image a little bit.  Any criticism of another is a part of that energy stream.  And then emotions come, and they amplify the thoughts. It’s the loss of space.

For you to regain space, without saying “I’m not talking anymore”, one thing is necessary for you – which is the realization that you’ve lost space.   Without that, there’s nothing you can do – when you’re so taken over by a stream of thought, that you don’t even know you’ve been taken over by a stream of thought – there’s nothing you can do.  “Forgive them, for they know not what they do”.  They are unconscious.  They are the stream of thought.  And as the stream of thought, you don’t want it to end – because you don’t want your own end.  Every entity wants to remain in form for as long as possible.



If there’s the slightest realization that you’ve lost [space], at that moment you have a choice.  What is your choice?  Your choice is to bring some presence, some space, into the stream of thought.  But how do you do that?

It’s coming at you not only from within your own mind, but it’s coming at you from the other person too.  The awareness is there, and it may only last three seconds, and then it’s gone again.  So you have to use those two or three seconds, where you realize the loss of space, and do something in that space where you have some freedom to act.  By a conscious choice, you take your attention out of thinking – but you have to anchor it somewhere else, otherwise it won’t work.  So you choose your breath, or your body, or some other sense perception around you that you become aware of.  When you are actually talking to another person, it’s probably easiest to either use your breath or your inner body.

Practice this beforehand, when conditions are easier, so that you can do it once it’s necessary.  Go into your inner body, feel that your energy field is alive.  And you’ll notice, you’re not thinking anymore.  You can still listen.  The amazing thing is that you can listen to another person, without thinking, easily, beautifully.

You are listening, but part of your attention is on your energy field – so you’ve taken attention away from your thoughts.  There is a sense of aliveness in the background.
It’s ultimately formless; it’s already the doorway into the formless.  Feel that while you sit there and listen, and you’ve stepped out of the stream of thinking.  Then, the quality of the interaction immediately changes.  The other person may not consciously notice what’s happening, and may carry on for a while. It also does not mean that you cannot respond anymore.  But how you respond and the quality of your response changes, too.  You are no longer contributing to the negative nature, which is often the case, in conversations.

A certain amount of stillness, then, will also be a part of the words that you speak.  It’s so subtle that the other person probably will not notice it, consciously.  So hang on to the inner body, let it be the anchor, and then you become present.  If you lose it again, if the other person says something challenging, then after a little while you remember – and you go back into the inner body. That’s a powerful anchor, and then everything changes from there. It takes continuous practice.