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发表于 2013-2-22 21:51 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 naturef 于 2013-2-22 22:56 编辑

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 楼主| 发表于 2013-2-22 21:53 | 显示全部楼层
关于host联系方面的技巧

来自: 诗兒(可怕的不是做错,而是错了却怪人) 2012-06-29 21:40:48
host真心是一个很麻烦的事情,但我们通过helpx( or wwoof)出国,最重要的一个环节便是联系host。我跟我partner就经历联络好了又反悔的事情,所以也来跟大家讲下我们的经验(其实严格来说也说不上是经验或者技巧什么的吧。。)

首先就是给host发邮件的事。。
曾经有人问我,给host发邮件是中文还是英文啊?我表示这个问题让我很无语,我当时回答:”如果对方能看懂,我是没所谓你中文英文啦。“不过我相信也没有几个人会犯这错误吧。。
其实英文不好没关系,重要的东西一定要列清楚,比如”什么时候去”,“是一个人还是几个人”,“你能做的事情是什么”,以及“你和你朋友大概是什么样的人”这些。这是一些很重要的信息,很多host都会希望知道。对待host更多的是需要诚恳,而不是伪装。上面那个人当时也问我要不要给host发简历,我说,“你不就是去当个义工,还发简历。。有这么夸张么。”其实简历是没必要的,你毕竟不是去见工作,简历是死板的东西,条条框框,并不适合这种非正式的联系。(在这我也不觉得helpx的那个email me可以直接附附件给别人。。。)在句末用上一些温馨的词语,比如“our best wishes, wish you have a nice day”之类的也可以润色不少,这说白了其实也是普通的礼貌上面的事情。(再附赠大家一个小知识,我也是在英语课教了之后才知道的,如果前面用的是dear sir/madam,那么结尾应该用your faithfully;如果前面是dear+名字,那么结尾就是your sincerely;二者是不能调换的。。。虽然我也不懂具体的原因- -)

然后就是,必须详细看host写的资料,不要说自己英语不好就随便掠过。有些像是non-smoking之类的语句是非常重要的,你可以在给host的邮件里面标明自己是non-smoker,表示你是有认真阅读host的留言的。有些host甚至会在大段文字里面加入一句“please put a ** in front of your passage, to show that you have read this introduction。”如果你没有按照要求来做的话,host会直接skip掉你的邮件。(我见过最郁闷的莫过于一家要求在mail的title上加入一个单词,但是email me的话是直接以from helper who to host ***的,我实在没就接过来怎么加。。)我后来也看到过有义工给一家人评价1星,原因就是那家人要non-smoker,然后义工忘记了,就在他们家抽烟了,结果host第二天一早就把helpxer送走了,helpxer觉得host太不人道了。

接下来讲讲我们的事情。我们由于看到网上总是说很早host就被book满了,所以我们在4月底5月初就联系好了host。当时两家host都是在byron bay附近的,就用host 1 和host 2 来区分。
host 1 开始给我们感觉很热情。我们给他发了邮件后,他立马就回了,问我们在哪,说他们喜欢中国菜。我们就说我们在还在中国,只是想先问下大概那段时间能不能接人(因为听说很多很早就被订满了)。他们就跟我们说,那你们来的时候就跟我们说吧。到我们拿到了签证,定好机票后再跟她联系,他就说,”你们到了悉尼我们再详谈吧。“这时候感觉也是还可以到他们家的,因为一直都没有拒绝。由于我跟partner很早就查看sydney去byron bay的机票,然后发现越靠近飞机起飞时间机票越贵,(从最开始看的39刀到了后来订的59刀),所以我们就商量着定了7月3号sydney to ballina(byron)的机票。然后我们就跟host发邮件,告诉他我们定了7月3号的机票。这时候她才跟我们说,很抱歉,我已经有人了,你们不能来我这里了。希望你能找到别的host。这时已经离我出发去悉尼不到1天的时间了(大约是25号早上)。
host 1 是真的让我很恼火。而且在我看到他忽然说不行的邮件的时候,我上他的helpx profile看了,他最近曾经更新过,说家里已经有1个spanish的 helpxer了,希望能再找一个跟那个女生一起工作。我觉得既然我们之前一直是说那段时间打算去他们家的,他们也没明确拒绝,反而是拖着我们说让我们到悉尼在详谈,那么他在确定了有helpxer的时候,起码也应该告知我们一声,而不是在我们讲我们订好票了之后(似乎像是事情发展到了他没法隐瞒的地步),才说,”啊,已经有helpxer了,我们不需要你了。“感觉完全就是想先把我们hold在手里,然后碰到更适合的就把我们扔掉的感觉。
所以这里也建议大家,别在host没有反对你来的情况下认为他们答应了,有些真心是坏心的。也建议大家多点上host的主页,哪怕他已经说了能让你来了,还是多点留意他最近的更新信息,免得临时跳票。

host 2 的话虽然也是反口了,但毕竟他们说的比较早。我们告诉他们拿到签证的时候他们是说那段时间可以去的,但是大概在同一天晚上又给我们发了邮件,说刚跟他们女儿沟通了,他们女儿要回来,所以没办法接待我们了。这样子的态度我们是可以接受的,毕竟女儿总比别人重要嘛,而且他们也没有说是临时变卦让我们措手不及,所以虽然反悔了,但是也没有产生太大的问题。而且他们还说如果是晚点去的话就ok了,只是我们那时候安排了别的形成,所以只能放弃掉了。
这个就是哪怕确定了,还是有可能出现突发状况的。所以建议大家持续跟host保持联系,别有的没的断断续续,不然哪天可能忽然间去不了导致悲剧。

在知道两家host都反悔了的情况下,我跟我partner完全就是空手来到悉尼了。我们甚至还想是不是直接玩1个半月,然后就回国算了。我们之后还发了很多的邮件给host,要么就没回音,要么就说已经满了或者近期不需要志愿者,我们俩死的心都有了。但是由于我们不死心,也觉得纯玩实在太贵了,所以我们买了两电话卡,作最后的挣扎。
我们选了几个host,直接给他们拨电话。下午打了3家,2家转到语音信箱,1家wrong no。其中两家留了言,但是晚上也米有给我回电话,估计也是没戏了。不过我在这里还是建议大家直接打电话去,这样子事情会比较确定,也更方便交流。

晚上回到我借住的朋友家里上网,发现出发前发的一家host给了回复,说是有扇墙的工作,如果我们觉得自己能handle的来,就可以过去。于是我先给partner打了个电话问她觉得如何,她说ok,我就立马给host打电话。因为之前敲过邮件,所以电话特顺利,而且host的英语很好,完全没有澳洲本地的口音。等挂了电话,第一周的行程终于算是定下来了。

然后我又在后面挑的几个host里选了一个打电话。开始也是飞到留言信箱,鉴于我想到下午打的两个飞留言信箱的完全没回音,所以就觉得还是算了。谁知挂电话没半会,host就打回来了,问刚才是不是给他打电话。(看来不留言反而是真确的,他们有可能往回拨,以为是朋友电话什么的- -+)然后我就介绍说我是helpx的啊,什么什么的啊。这个host交流过程有点囧,因为之前没有邮件,所以大家都有点郁闷。互相报邮箱的时候更加囧,都没听清对方的邮箱,还好后来他说“i'll message you”。但是电话的好处就是他们还真的给了我们一段时间,是在他前一个义工离开后和后一个义工来到前中间的一段时间。(我觉得直接打电话的好处就在这,如果是发邮件的话,其一对方可能没看到;其二,大多数情况我们给对方都是一个大概的日期,其实是可以配合对方调整的。但是host看到的时候可能会觉得中间有些时间已经有人了,不适合,就不回邮件了,从而错失了很多机会。)

于是经过昨天晚上的努力,我跟我partner就从0 host瞬间将我们的行程排到了7月23号,也算是搞定了大半了,所以不得不说电话是比较高效的,也给人感觉更加真实,不像邮件似乎有点儿戏。
好了,希望能给大家一点帮助吧~
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-2-22 21:53 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 naturef 于 2013-2-22 22:35 编辑

看了上面的一堆介绍,感觉真的应该做义工旅游更有意义。
介绍一个站点http://eco-logic-volunteerprojec ... /volunteer-on-line/

可以先做网上义工,其实先积累国内的有机生态村的经验很重要的。
发表于 2013-2-25 11:41 | 显示全部楼层
这些看着很不错啊。关注链接,去看下。

谢谢楼主。
发表于 2013-2-25 13:24 | 显示全部楼层
发重了,不好意思。
发表于 2013-2-25 16:45 | 显示全部楼层
看了上面的一堆介绍,感觉真的应该做义工旅游更有意义。
介绍一个站点

可以先做网上义工,其实先积累国内 ...
naturef 发表于 2013-2-22 21:53



    哈国内的义工先做,自然是去这里啦http://www.aswish.org/
想申请的话填这里http://www.aswish.org/volunteer
据说他们10月份收割需要人,刚好国庆放假呵呵……
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-11 19:16 | 显示全部楼层
AUBUSSON
All Year: yes
Area (ha):
Persons: 1
Category: Homestay
Host ID: 12364 view full listing
Country:  France

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Last Updated: March 10, 2013
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We are looking for a responsible and fun native english or spanish or chinese speaker to stay with us minimum three weeks. We offer your own room, meals, in the middle of the french countryside.
We have five children who are home educated. We need someone to look after them for a few hours each day. We would like someone to play games, take them for walks and teach them english, or spanish or chinese.
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-11 19:18 | 显示全部楼层
co. clare
All Year: yes
Area (ha): 9
Persons: 1 or 2,1for winter
Category: Organic Farmstay
Host ID: 15373
Region: Ireland

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Organic Status: organic garden with 4 cattle(not organic)

Looking for a place to let nature connect with you,good food, comfortable cabin and a fue hours work.I can share my experience in gardening and much more.

I am looking for someone to help with digging a garden in March to get soil ready for planting potatoes and vegetables also some fallen limbs of trees to be cut up, take ivy off trees and keep eye on the cattle.


At the moment help is required, varnishing/painting and tiling a floor .Some weeding in the garden when we get a fue fine days and also in the kitchen cooking meals I enjoy cooking but I feel I am spending alot of time in the kitchen and I would like to spend less time there,there may be some maintenance work about the farm, so as I progress further with my study and practice in Hanmi Buddhism.


I am currently a vegetarian if you eat meat it ok too I enjoy home cooking and eating good wholesome seasonal food,non smoker/drinker


My home is near Sixmilebridge southwest Ireland coord(52.74,-8.77) 12 miles from Shannon airport 13 from Limerick city and 15 from Ennis,I live on my own.

If you like to meditate Sunyata retreat centre is close by.I have fue bicycles if one is needed.I do not have an internet conection you are welcome to the library in Sixmilebridge which has internet

I work off farm in Shannon on shift rotation 6,8 hour days then off for 3.We can work together on my days off if I am about otherwise I will give guidence and I give guidence for the other days that I am working and you will have your days off.We can be flexible.

I am student of Hanmi Buddhism(Esteroic school of Chinese Buddhism) at the Zennis meditation centre in Ennis, and currently doing a meditation course there on various days.

I enjoy being with nature,5rhythms dance, festivals, yoga,chi-gong,meditation and agriculture/vintage shows .I am a member of Irish seed savers based in Scariff Co.Clare.You are welcome to join me when I go out socailising and when I go to town.

Accommodation is in a comfortable cabin. So if you are interested in a fue hours work, meditation and nature,this exchange may suit you.
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-11 19:19 | 显示全部楼层
回复 6# 岳清扬

是的,先做国内的农场义工更好啊,就是双方要沟通安排好。
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-11 19:20 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 naturef 于 2013-3-11 19:29 编辑

Host ID: 17327
Region: Germany

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Last Updated: September 6, 2012
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We are a Buddhist Shaolin Monastery in Germany, in the town of Otterberg in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate. In total, seven monks and novices are currently residing here permanently. In addition, during most weeks of the year, we host between two and eight guests. Some of them are lay monks and/or visit the monastery regularly, whereas others often only come for one or two weeks to see how life in the monastery works or want to find out whether a simple life and hard training are the thing for them.

The monastery is situated at Weinbrunnerhof in a beautiful little valley, approx. four km from the nearest town (Otterberg), about 14 km from the nearest train station, and about the same distance from the city of Kaiserslautern.

The area of the monastery itself encompasses about three hectares and is surrounded by forest. Parts of the grounds are park-like, and there are some meadows as well, which also makes it a great opportunity to get in touch with nature.

At the monastery, there are also some “temple dogs” and “temple cats”, so you should like animals.

The accommodation is simple and modest, but comfortable. In the summer, there is generally only cold water – starting in the fall, during winter, and on cold days in spring there is warm water.

Accommodation is in shared rooms (however, depending on the number of guests, sometimes you may have a room to yourself, too) or in a comfortable cabin resp. caravan (which is, of course, heated when it is cold outside). There is a shared bathroom for the guests, with a bathtub with shower, etc.

Guests should have an open mind towards Buddhism (but do not need to be Buddhists themselves; we welcome all religions). Participating in ceremonies, training (e.g., Kung Fu, Qi Gong, and Tai Chi), meditation, etc. is not an obligation, but you are welcome to take part in everything free of charge. Our fighting monks train almost every day for six to eight hours (starting at 6 in the morning until approx. 9 or 10 a.m., then in the evenings from 6 p.m.). In addition, there are theory classes as well as ceremonies and meditation sessions several times a day. Our guests are welcome to attend these, but are not obliged to do so and can also stay away from these completely if they wish to. Of course, participating in these things counts as leisure time, not as work time – even if the training can be very exhausting ?.

Our guests can take part for free in some of the seminars taking place at the monastery; for others there is a charge – the monastery partly funds itself through these seminars – but it is also possible to work in exchange for participation if one is interested in something.

In addition to room and board we also pay a small allowance and, if desired, involve our guests in life at the monastery. You may also use the monastery’s library. At any rate, you will find an open-minded and friendly community. Our monks are Germans, Americans, Vietnamese, Thai, and Chinese.

This also means that the food may be more German or more American at times, or more Asian, and sometimes even wildly mixed up ?.
Since this is a monastery, there are, of course, some rules for our guests, too, that must be absolutely adhered to. On the entire grounds, cigarettes and tobacco products of any kind, alcohol, and drugs are absolutely prohibited. Any violation of this rule may lead to an immediate termination of your stay.
Our guests are not required to eat vegetarian food only.

The languages spoken at the monastery include German, English, French, Spanish, Romanian, and Vietnamese. Guests should have at least some basic knowledge of either German or English.

We are looking for several guests who want to stay for at least six months or longer (three months are the absolute minimum). We generally agree on a two-week probation period at first, and if both sides are happy, you can continue for the desired period of time. We expect our guests to take over certain functions that they can do pretty much on their own following a period of introduction.
As far as clothing is concerned, our guests may wear what they like (within the restrictions listed below), but they can also be given work clothing by the monastery – except where noted.
If you intend to wear your own clothing, it should be appropriate. Jeans, T-shirts, or track suits are absolutely okay. However, there should be no religious references on T-shirts and sweatshirts (neither positive nor negative) or any objectionable motives such as a marihuana leaf, etc. Also, when guests or visitors come to the monastery, you should think about whether a muscle shirt, for example, is always the correct type of clothing.

When you contact us, please let us know which of the jobs you would like to take over. And we would also appreciate getting a picture of you. We will answer every email with questions and a profile.

We are looking for:


Facility Manager / Majordomo:

The work:
- Trimming plants, bushes, trees
- Cutting the grass
- Maintaining leafy plants (both outside and inside)
- Doing paint jobs
- Making firewood
- Making minor repairs and doing maintenance work
- Fixing and maintaining fencing
- Cleaning up workshop (the monastery has its own workshop)
- Instructing the short-term guests in these areas and checking their work
- Picking up materials (your own driver’s license would be an advantage, but is not a prerequisite – if necessary, one of the monks can drive you).
- If you want to, you can plant your own herb or vegetable garden.

Working hours:
4 – 5 hours each on 5 days per week.
Protective clothing (the monastery can provide helmet, hearing protection, gloves, etc.)

Bring with you:
Work clothes (dungarees or something similar), possibly a smock or an apron for working outside, or clothes that may get dirty.

Prerequisites:
Certain skills in trades and crafts, and some experience in gardening and handling plants – ideally a tradesman or gardener (but this is not a requirement if you think you can do the job).


Housekeeper:

The work:
- Cleaning
- Vacuuming
- Dusting
- Cooking/food preparation (preparing breakfast, lunch, and dinner – you don’t always have to be present; these can also be prepared)
- Shopping (your own driver’s license would be an advantage, but it is not a prerequisite – if necessary, one of the monks can drive you).
- Cleaning the kitchen
- Managing the supply inventory
- Cleaning the pantry
- Helping with the laundry (washing, ironing, folding, etc.) when necessary – the monastery has its own laundry master

Working hours:
4 – 5 hours each on 5 days per week.
Apron, smock, etc. will be provided by the monastery.

Prerequisites:
Be able to cook and have kitchen experience – ideally a cook or a housekeeper or a kitchen aide (but this is not a requirement if you think you can do the job).


Dog Carer:

The work:
- Taking care of the temple dogs
- Taking the dogs for a walk
- Feeding the dogs
- Training with the dogs (the monastery has its own dog training area)
- Maintaining and repairing, enlarging/extending the dog training area
- Keeping the dogs busy and playing with them

Working hours:
4 – 5 hours each on 5 days per week.

Bring with you:
Jeans or some similar heavy-duty clothing that may get dirty.

Prerequisites:
Preferably be an animal lover and crazy about dogs ?.


Office Assistant:

The work:
- Filing
- Copying
- Faxing
- Sorting and filing
- Phone service
- Possibly answering emails
- Getting mail ready for sending
- Keeping office clean and cleaning
- Printing standard letters
- Binding, stapling, laminating, etc.


Working hours:
4 – 5 hours each on 5 days per week.

Prerequisites:
Good to very good knowledge of German (absolute requirement); at least an acceptable level of knowledge in English or French would not hurt (but is not a basic requirement)
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